Monday, February 18, 2013

10. Who was Adam? Jesus, God or a creation of God?

Some of my notes on Jesus, Michael the Arch-Angel & Adam are discussed in Post #3 on the discussion of pre-existence. The information listed here is in addition to that discussion.

The Bible in 1Timothy 2:14 shows that Adam was a willful rubble against God's law because he was not deceived. Doctrine and covenants section 29 v. 40 admits "Adam partook of the forbidden fruit and transgressed the commandment wherein he became subject to the devil because he yielded much temptation." Yet the same book says "Adam is Michael God has appointed Michael your Prince and established his feet and set up on high given him the keys of salvation the consul and direction of the holy one."

I am not certain why anyone would want to claim Adam was a positive role model. Adam obeyed Satan and for the first time participated in wickedness. According to the Scriptures Adam ended his life outside the favor of God. He became a servant of the devil certainly not in the position of favorite is the Mormons seem to suggest.

I have been told by other Mormons that it is their belief that Adam is also God in heaven, and that he came to earth with one of his celestial wives, under another identity is Michael the Archangel and that as the Archangel he becomes our God and the father of Jesus Christ. "Now here it, or inhabitants of the earth, when our father, Adam, came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body and brought Eve, one of his wives with him. He is our father and our God and the only God we have to do." Brigham Young sermon, Mill star volume 15 page 769, 1853. Also the Mormon publication Truth volume 15 number 10 published in 1950 stated this, "in the light of this revelation, we must believe that Adam is our father, and our God and that he also is the literal father of Jesus, the son of Mary, both spirit and body." These teachings did come from older publications, nearly 45 years old and the point of this writing, and that their understanding may have changed over the years. However for my reading I understand they still do believe this teaching. Although with some Mormon elders I talked to they teach that Adam is the physical descendent of Jesus and so therefore can be referred to as Jesus's father. But this is not the teaching that the publication Truth states as quoted in the previous paragraph.

In the book of Mormon,2 Nephi 2:22-23 it makes the statement that a Adam had not transgress he would not have fallen to remain in the garden he would not have had children and that the bottom of verse 23 it states that they knew no sin to Mormons conclude from this person they to have children is to sin?

Mormonism teaches that Jesus was begotten by Adam and not by Holy Spirit that he was a leguminous with many wives, and that he had children that he was needed for this reason. For confirmation of the following quotes," I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer because I said in my lecture on marriage and her last conference that Jesus Christ was married ay Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha and others were his wise and that Jesus begot children." Apostle Orson Hyde, Journal of discourses volume 11:210 the Mormon comment: we believe Matthew 1:20 which reads: "But after he had thought these things over, look! Jehovah’s angel appeared to him in a dream, saying: “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary your wife home, for that which has been begotten in her is by holy spirit." Well obviously they don't believe Matthew 1:20 as implied because of comments in this report stated earlier that Adam and not God using his Holy Spirit as active force was the literal father of Jesus. In the publication Truth published in March 1950 page 273 it says, "the Lord told me that Jesus was the son of Adam"

In further discussions with the two elders from the Waialua Ward, I was told that Jesus was begotten by Adam and not by Holy Spirit as Matthew 1:20 states. He concluded that since God was Jesus's father and Adam was God that Adam's father. The elder that told me this said that he was also a bishop from the Hauula Ward in Hawaii. Despite further comments by other Mormons which suggested that Adam died in God's favor is interesting in that some Mormons claim Adam to be God. So what is it. Adam died in God's favor? Adam died outside of God's favor? And at the same time Adam is God?

"I have learned by experience that there is but one God that pertains to this earth the first man Adam the first man sent his own son Jesus Christ ..." Journal of discourses 4:1 also ..." He was not begotten by Holy Ghost" Brigham Young, Journal of discourses 1: 345-346 also apostle Orson Hyde, sermon, Beadle, page 304. In reality however the Bible never once teaches that Jesus ever was married. Therefore, any claim other than that would be pure speculation inspired from another source, other than the Bible.

In the book of Mormon, Mosiah 3:8 says that Jesus Christ is the father of the heaven and earth, the creator of all things from the beginning; and his mother shall be called Mary. Compare through Colossians 1: 15-16 which says," who is the image of the invisible God the firstborn of every creature: for by him were all things created, that are in the heavens and that are on the earth visible and invisible ..." So that the one who was firstborn of everything was not God that the image of God. This clearly supports Jesus is God's son the one who created all things under the direction of his father.


As with all my research, it is ongoing and always under construction. So whatever you may be reading, there's a good chance it will change by the time you read it a second time. As I learn more about the Mormon teaching, I will post it and revise what I have written.









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